Talk:Dinner by Heston Blumenthal

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April 5, 2012Good article nomineeListed
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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the restaurant Dinner by Heston Blumenthal serves fruit made of meat (pictured)?
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Menu eras?[edit]

There seems to be an inconsistency in the "eras" represented by the menu. In one paragraph it says 16th Century and forward, while in another it says 14th to 19th. Obviously one must be incorrect. Bagheera (talk) 02:16, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Having seen a photograph of the menu on Commons which has the dates on it, I can say the 16th century is incorrect, and so have removed it. Miyagawa (talk) 12:32, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Dinner by Heston Blumenthal/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Albacore (talk · contribs) 19:05, 31 March 2012 (UTC) Review:

  • Particular dishes have been heralded as stand outs, "heralded" and "stand outs" are close to peacock terms, a reword would be nice.
  • Changed it to "Particular dishes have received praise". Miyagawa (talk) 18:34, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Consider linking "mousse" on first appearance.
  • Added it to the source on WikiCommons. Miyagawa (talk) 18:34, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
  • The opening was originally planned for 1 December, but delays occurred requiring it to be pushed back until after the Christmas period was over 1. Could you elaborate on "delays"? 2. A comma after occurred is needed. 3. it->> the opening
  • Changed the structure as suggested. Once I've done with the copyedits I'll go have a look through the sources to see if there is anything more specific, although I think it was simply because the restaurant wasn't finished. Miyagawa (talk) 18:34, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
  • two chefs researched the historical menu second the is not needed
  • She also wrote that Hix had remarked remove "had"
  • Richard Vines whilst writing for Bloomberg advised Bloomberg is a DAB, and a comma could be used after Vines and after Bloomberg
  • Fixed and changed the dab link to Bloomberg Businessweek, although left it in the citation as Bloomberg as it's on their generic website. Miyagawa (talk) 18:34, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Changed as suggested - also realised I'd typed original instead of origin about five words after that. Miyagawa (talk) 18:34, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
  • reason behind recreating the salamagundy dish. Salmagundi? Is salamagundy an alternate?
  • Good find, I hadn't realised that the restaurant uses a different spelling to normal. The article certain sounds like something that would be on the menu. Miyagawa (talk) 18:34, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Overall the article has peacock terms, which leads to puffery, the main concern with the article.

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

I'll look over the article again when these comments are addressed. Albacore (talk) 19:05, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the message on my talk page, I hadn't realised a review had begun. I'm about to log off wiki for the night, so I'll address these points and make the relevant edits when I'm back on tomorrow evening. Thanks for the review! Miyagawa (talk) 22:27, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
I've gone through and edited the description and menu sections for peacock terms and did a bit of copyediting whilst I was at it. I couldn't find anything specific on the nature of the delay itself, but I did manage to find something a little bit extra on the timings and so I've added that to the article. Let me know if theres anything else you need to do, I'll stick this page on my watchlist. Miyagawa (talk) 18:50, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Reread, and looks good. Only niggling concern is The British Library; should it be as is, The British Library, or British Library, since the former redirects to the latter? Albacore (talk) 21:52, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
For some reason I got it into my head that the article was "The British Library". So I've changed the link to just "British Library" and de-linked the "the" (and removed the capital too). Miyagawa (talk) 13:52, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Passed. Albacore (talk) 14:15, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

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Pure advertising![edit]

I hope the owners are being billed for what is just pure advertising. There is no possible other purpose for this piece.--Damorbel (talk) 11:35, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Content Removal[edit]

What content, if any, should be removed from this article? -- Dolotta (talk) 05:19, 7 June 2018 (UTC)