Talk:List of characters in mythology novels by Rick Riordan

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REDIRECT[edit]

(Talk:List of characters in the Percy Jackson and the Olympians series and in the Heroes of Olympus series) I organised a few lists. The minor character list was supposed to be in alphabetical order, yet Ms Dare was organised in the list as if her first name began with M. There were similar errors with Dr Chase and Ms Grade. The Olympian gods were also organised in alphabetical order except Zeus and Hera. However it seemed odd that Poseidon was at the bottom so I moved Poseidon to under Zeus as he is one of the big three and is higher in the heirachy than Hera. Apart from the big three and Hera, there didn't seem to be any other orders of power so I left the rest in alphabetical order.

Changed Hades from a minor to a major god.[edit]

Since he plays a big part in the first series, more so than a lot of the other gods such as Demeter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.118.140.24 (talk) 13:32, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

I changed him back to a minor god alongside Hestia. The list is not of major gods but of Olympians. They are both definitively not Olympians. However I also edited Hades' description to emphasize that he is still one of the three most powerful gods. Perhaps the list should be changed to 'Non-Olympian gods' as 'Minor gods' seems to be a little inaccurate as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.255.204.123 (talk) 11:49, 23 March 2013 (UTC)


Annabeth should have her own page[edit]

I believe Annabeth Chase should have her own article for the following reasons:

1.In the book, the Mark of Athena, Annabeth plays a major role. Rick Riordan himself said that the revolves around her quest.

2.Annabeth is the de-facto leader of the prophecy of the seven(as stated in the books). As such, when all the other characters in the seven(Eg:Hazel,Frank) have their own pages, she should be notable enough to have one as well.

3. She has been featured or at least mentioned in all of the books until now. She was a major character in the first series and I stated above, she is the leader of the seven.

4. She has had her own point of view in both the House of Hades and the Mark of Athena. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.195.71.21 (talk) 11:15, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Don't forget, she's one of the trio of herself, Percy and Grover, and is Percy's girlfriend. Ari (talk) 11:02, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Changed Clarisse from a minor to a lead character.[edit]

Clarisse is surely a lead character in the first series. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.119.12.47 (talk) 11:45, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Add Nicknames?[edit]

OK, I don't know if this is necessary or not, but since most of the demigods have nicknames (though I don't remember Nico being called "Death Breath"), more should be added. For example, Jason's called "Sparky" and I think Piper called Leo "Repair boy" (he wanted to be called "Supreme Commander of Argos II" or something) in The Lost Hero. Leo also calls Piper "Beauty Queen" Just a suggestion! — Preceding unsigned comment added by LovelyEdit (talkcontribs) 18:38, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't understand![edit]

Why was Annabeth's article deleted? Isn't she a main character, just like Percy and Jason and Piper and Hazel? Surely she's just as important as the rest of the Seven? And she appears in every book in the first series alongside Percy and Grover. Why on earth-? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.61.98.171 (talk) 09:22, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Because on Wikipedia, creating an article for ONE fictional character does not show any signs of importance. Which is why that all characters from Percy Jackson and Heroes of Olympus which still has a stand-alone article will be requested to be moved to this page. EnvyDC (talk) 08:39, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Random[edit]

  • This page could use some pictures, maybe from the movie? It's a bit too much dry reading.
See:
Wbm1058 (talk) 14:42, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

But the pictures must have significant discriptions for the sake of the visually impaired. Ari (talk) 11:07, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Changed the sub title Olympian gods to Greek/Roman Gods[edit]

There were gods that werent olympians there are only twelve olympians so to make things more accurate — Preceding unsigned comment added by Percyjackonlover (talkcontribs) 12:32, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Annabeth[edit]

Clearly, Annabeth should have her own page. She is one of the most important members of the seven, especially since she is one of the main characters in both book series. Plus, if Percy gets his own page, so should Annabeth, because not only are they romantically involved, but because if she didn't exist neither would Percy Jackson since he would've died in the first book if not for her. So, if Jason, Piper, and Percy get a Wiki page, Annabeth does too.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.251.72.25 (talkcontribs)

Take a few minutes and read Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Generally, only main characters should get a separate article, if that. Although Annabeth is clearly important to the series, she is not the protagonist. Thanks for your involvement though! PrincessofLlyr royal court 18:04, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
Viewing this from out-of-universe, Annabeth is a major supporting character in the first five books and a perspective character from The Mark of Athena on. I would support a full article for Annabeth Chase, especially since we already have articles for Piper and Leo. Darkfrog24 (talk) 00:42, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
"since we already have..." is not how we determine what content should make a stand alone article, what matters is coverage about the topic, in reliably published, third party sources. Given that this article currently presents for Annabeth the grand total of NOTHING in that regard, discussions of a spin off article are entirely premature. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 00:47, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
and see also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Annabeth Chase (Percy Jackson). -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 00:52, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Oh, I see. It shouldn't be too hard to scare up a few book reviews. Darkfrog24 (talk) 14:58, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
The book reviews would need to have content specifically about Annabeth as a character and not just mention that she exists in a plot recap. I did some looking and was surprised not to find anything - nothing about "she is a good/bad role model for girls because ..." or "her character provides X to the books." nothing. the closest was a passing mention that "Like Percy she has dyslexia but it doesnt stop her from being bookish" but it did not go on to actually make any real world context/connection dyslexia and learning. (there was however, a surprisingly detailed examination of her parents!)-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 15:10, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Well yes. Of course they would have to contain content about her if the article is about her. You seem pretty vehement. Was there some sort of conflict over this?
You didn't find any? I'd have to agree; that's surprising. I would expect there would be lots of articles on Jezebel and whatever comparing her to Hermione and Katniss Everdeen. Darkfrog24 (talk) 17:21, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Annabeth Chase problems[edit]

Hello, people.

However, as Annabeth is as important as the seven, under rule A7 of the criteria, we shouldn't be talking about who's important and who's not.

We hope that you will try your best to edit this article, due to its issues.

Thank you. -Ryguyrocky- Ryguyrocky (talk) 13:36, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

About characters with their own pages[edit]

Regardless of whether characters like Annabeth Chase and Thalia Grace should have their own pages, if they do then it would be helpful for people involved with those articles to edit this one and shorten up the descriptions of characters who have their own pages. If we can get it down to just the bare minimum and put a "main article" link, that would be helpful I think, for those who have not read the series.

I'm speaking specifically about the section on Percy, as his article is already pretty beefy, and all that he has here is just extra. I rally don't want to see any articles get deleted because there's too much available already.

Perhaps someone could establish a few basics to state about each character on this page like: Name, gender, ancestry, powers. If they're super-minor, it could even just be a reference to where and when they appear. Most characters who are important enough that someone would look them up are described well in the articles on the books and in articles on the main characters -- again, another case where "see also" would be helpful. This page should be about the relationships between characters, not romances and things, but 'X knows Y because of this' and 'This is the unique stuff about Z'. 2ReinreB2 (talk) 05:16, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

EVERYTHING on this page should be tightened and better sourced. It should cover what the third party analysts have found worthy of note - we are just the compilers.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 03:07, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Update: cleaned up "main characters" and "Percy Jackson & the Olympians secondary characters" sections. Anyone interested in doing something similar for the rest of the page -- please, check over what I did and see if it works well. I'd still like them to be shorter, but the general consensus seems to be leaning towards "bigger is better". 2ReinreB2 (talk) 20:37, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

What's the opinion on "demigods" like Jack London, Harriett Tubman, etc.?[edit]

Frequently in the novels, there are mentioned demigods who are in fact historical figures: Jack London and Harriet Tubman, for example. Is there a consensus of how they should be handled in this article? Should wikilinks to the person's actual pages be included? Is there a special note that should be made about them being historical figures? It seems kind of tricky to talk about some of them, as a few may still be living, and that would require adherence to the biography guidelines. Please feel free to share your view, especially if you think that some changes tot he article ought to be made. 2ReinreB2 (talk) 02:41, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Solved; thanks to all who helped. 2ReinreB2 (talk) 22:41, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Updating the page[edit]

Considering the page is called "List of Camp Half-Blood characters", not Percy Jackson and the Olympians characters, I think we should reorganize it. For example, Grover should not be considered a main character for both of the series, while characters such as Nico appeared more times. I think that we should merge the main Heroes of Olympus characters with the main Percy Jackson of the Olympians characters and rethink the organization. Zussman1 (talk) 20:31, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

On the recent name change[edit]

A discussion has been started on the Percy Jackson Task-force talk page about the name of this article. Please read and comment HERE. 2ReinreB2 (talk) 02:07, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

The discussion was concluded with the most recent name change. -- 2ReinreB2 (talk) 02:17, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

IMPORTANT!!![edit]

This article does not mention Kane Chronicles characters, although it says it does in the head and they are mythology novels. It only includes Characters from Greek mythology novels. Am I missing something?2601:640:4080:3CC0:9DA8:B32F:DD66:8B4D (talk) 04:01, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

  • @2601:640:4080:3CC0:9DA8:B32F:DD66:8B4D -- No, you are correct. The article was only expanded to cover Kane characters a matter of hours ago. WP:RRTF is in the process of adding them on there. You're welcome to help if you would like. -- 2ReinreB2 (talk) 13:18, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

HELLO MADA FUKAS — Preceding unsigned comment added by O12345TASDQ (talkcontribs) 23:20, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Rick Riordan Presents characters[edit]

Hello, all. I just removed the section of this page entitled "In Rick Riordan Presents". The lead of this page states that it covers characters in "mythology novels by Rick Riordan" (emphasis added). In my opinion, it is not smart to include characters in books not actually written by Riordan - which is why I removed the section. This page is already huge. I encourage interested editors to create another page for these characters or their relevant book(s). If you disagree or have any other opinions, please start a discussion below. Thanks. -- 2ReinreB2 (talk) 23:47, 3 June 2018 (UTC)