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The article needs some explanation for the name / honorific "Chhatrapati".

Is this a name or an honorific? I see that the Maratha emperors all have this attribution, which makes me think it must be an honorific: so that needs to be explained. If not, if it is merely a name, that needs explanation as well.

'Chattrapati' is a honorific. It means 'Emperor' or 'Lord Of The World'.

Chaatrapati (छत्रपती)is honorific which literally means Master (owner) of Chhatra ( Umbrela). An umbrela is a symbol for kingdom and owner of it is called Pati.

Sikh Caste System[edit]

It implies that the Sikhs doesn't had a caste system can someone elaborate as I taught the Sikhs rejected the caste system.

Kings Maratha descent[edit]

Anyone who has information about the descendants of King Mustradha Sri Maheswari and King Kalai Sri Bhunawa Maharashtra? It is understood that the two of them, they went into the trade envoy Malaya (Malaysia) in the 18th century, in the area in 1786. While King Mustradha Sri Maheswari into Malaysia in 1822 and developed his seed in Penang to Kuala Lumpur.

Raja Kalai Sri Bhunawa Maharashthra from Maratha empire
Raja Mustradha Sri Maheswari from Maratha empire


“File:MarathaEmpire1759” is not WP:SYNTH. The map is illustrated based off of its source and is therefore not original work. The current map is outdated, and factually incorrect, as regions such as the Northwest and Gujarat are not included.

Illustrating exact claims by the author does not constitute original work as its merely laying out sourced claims pictographically. This is seen on the Ottoman Empire article’s choice of a map, which is not a direct map from a textbook but rather a direct digital illustration of territory explained in written context within its sources.

I will be changing the map one more time. Do not vandalize my changes. Warning. Bajirao1007 (talk) 22:03, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for actually trying to discuss this. However, you need to both show that the map is actually in the book (and not based on your interpretation of what the book says) as well as explain why the author is reliable (for example, is he/she an academic historian?). Otherwise, the map is either WP:OR or not sourced to a reliable source. Finally, when you find yourself reverted, you should seek consensus before edit warring. --regentspark (comment) 00:05, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi everyone, I made some major changes. The lede looks like personal opinions of user Souniel Yadav. I've also added more contents about the Maratha rape and atrocities on Bengalis. Thank you--Vitalpantaryan (talk) 16:21, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Vitalpantaryan:, indeed it's a major change. But, ...Hndu and Muslim Bengalis is considered to be among the deadliest massacres in Indian history. isin't it too subjective and probably WP:OR, as your source doesn't discribe it in line with your stated opinion. Santoshdts (talk) 18:44, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
And and many women and children gang raped again is not discussed by your source (Marshall, 2006) it seems like OR, Santoshdts (talk) 19:07, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
Hello I'll have a look about the atrocities later, but the sources (which are even unreliable) do not mention about liberating. Looks like that user put them on his own words.I am going to change it for now, and if you agree we can remove the entire phrase. Thanks--Vitalpantaryan (talk) 14:42, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

"Liberated" is not a neutral phrase[edit]

"The Marathas are credited to a large extent for liberating most of the Indian subcontinent from Mughal rule." sentence of the introduction should be reworked to be more neutral. Proposed example: "The Marathas are credited to a large extent for ending Mughal rule over most of the Indian subcontinent." — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:31, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

"The Marathas are credited to a large extent for ending Mughal rule over most of the Indian subcontinent" is the correct information Hbsalvi (talk) 19:53, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Bangladesh in infobox[edit]

Maratha territory only stretched upto Orissa in the east and never included any part of what is now Bangladesh. Please provide a source before adding Bangladesh or Bengal again to the list of Maratha territory. --Zayeem (talk) 16:09, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Does wikipedia have not limit to the number of links in further reading[edit]

Does Wikipedia have No Limit to the number of links in further reading section? Abbasquadir (talk) 18:38, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Further reading is not a required section and should be used sparingly. This one, as you seem to point out, is way too long. I've removed a couple or entries that are not just about the Marathas and suggest, if you have the time that you prune it down further (perhaps 3-4 comprehensive books/articles are more than enough). You can, of course, just boldly remove the entire section! --RegentsPark (comment) 21:30, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
Sure, I will. Thank you. Abbasquadir (talk) 05:33, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Abbasquadir Hello, I have reverted your recent edit made in goodfaith by merging Further reading and Bibliography sections of the article. The Bibliography section in the article lists the sources referred in the article, where as the Further reading section lists the sources which can be referred for more information on the topic. Hence, both the sections serve different purposes in the articles in wikipedia. Best Santoshdts [TalkToMe] 10:08, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Abbasquadir As Santoshdts says, the bibliography contains sources that are cited in the article. Further reading contains material that is not cited by the article and is meant to elaborate on the topic. We don't really need a further reading section so you can remove it if you like but don't merge it with the bibliography. At the minimum, I would trim it down to 4 - 6 sources that are mainly about the history of the Maratha Empire. The issue, as always, is that the sources in further reading are not checked for reliability and neutrality as well as the ones in the bibliography so my preference will be to get rid of them. But I don't know enough about the subject so will leave that to you. --RegentsPark (comment) 13:19, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Regentspark Alright , I shall do it. I chose andlet be 6 important one's. Thanks again. Abbasquadir (talk) 17:38, 7 August 2020 (UTC)