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Latino Nationalism???????????????[edit]

Latino nationalism redirects to this article and being honest I don't see any logical conection between both terms. It's actually crap since the so-called Latino nationalism only include "Latinos", not people from the entire Western Hemisphere. Stop using wikipedia to spread points of views or to make connections where there is none.--Scandza (talk) 15:11, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

You're right. I changed the target because of your comment. SamEV (talk) 18:51, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Stub[edit]

Article shall be extended with stuff related to why pan-americanism didn't success, for example, due to north american militar interventions. So I encourage you to take a look spanish article for further information.Soronto 21:53, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

You should also include the latin-american nationalist movement that came post the war of Chinchas Islands. And the subsequent joint Chilean-Peruvian development of the Latin American navy/defense force concept. Anon 12:51, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

This article is not neutral. Their is an detectable anti-United States tone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.252.21.92 (talk) 01:09, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Pan Americanism is not just a latin american concept expecially as theorized by Arland Russo and James Madison, both of whom espoused a continental United States of America--209.213.220.227 (talk) 16:55, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Thomas Jefferson was also a believer in Pan-Americanism.--108.16.109.189 (talk) 17:57, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Latinos?[edit]

Why not a WikiProject Latin America or WikiProject Americas? SamEV (talk) 14:56, 18 November 2007 (UTC) I think it should be put in WikiProject Americas- PA'ism involves the entire American continent minnecologies (talk) 13:07, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Hispanic nationalism?[edit]

Why does Hispanic nationalism redirect to this page? I mean, come on, who seriously thinks those two ideas are the same?--Murphy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.36.58.20 (talk) 05:42, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Indeed. I just removed that redirect. SamEV (talk) 06:25, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
It was restored. I nominated it for deletion and invite all who are interested to please comment at its RfD entry. Thanks. SamEV (talk) 20:30, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Re-redirected it to Latin nationalism--Tomtom9041 (talk) 16:08, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Why do people still insists to include U.S. 'greatness' everywhere?[edit]

What does this article states that U.S. were "looked as a model" by early South American panamericanistas? That would be absurd and stupid because at that time United states have not formed a union. How could South American panamericanistas based their dream on nonexistent United States of America? U.S. were just being born. In the early 1800's U.S. were expanding on the west fighting true americans. As Indians wars had just began some years before, it could not be possible for actual United States to exist at a time when territories as Oregon, Texas, Alaska, California, Utah, Colorado, Arizona, Nevada, and Florida had not been acquired. What South American panamericanist did take model from was U.S. spirit of liberation from colonial Britain... yes, that inspired them. Don't be confused. As the information in this article needed to be verified, I edited the article. I think Wikipedia does not need comentaries like the one above which I object, it needs facts instead. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.72.98.97 (talk) 20:49, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

That's only because the US was way behind the power curve in fighting "true americans", such as the Spanish annihilation of the Arawaks and the Mayans at the hands of the conquistadors, and their continuing suppression of non-latin pre-columbian cultures. Is that what you mean? The US states may be guilty of suppressing the native american cultures, but they were obviously the Johnny-come-latelies. Lets talk about the real reason that African slaves were brought to this hemisphere...and by whom.--Tomtom9041 (talk) 04:19, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

By the Spaniards no less. And we can include the Incas and probably lots more while we are at it.--71.185.193.245 (talk) 02:28, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

We can also include the Bandeirantes who took part in the Bandeiras, exploration expeditionsand the expandsion of Portuguese America. --209.213.220.227 (talk) 13:27, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

This is because America had liberated itself from England, there rulers, united, was a democracy and stayed one nation without collapsing. That is what many spanish colonies wanted. And the supression of "true americans" as you call them was much worse in the spanish colonies which enslaved them and worked most of them too death, with a small number surviving and marrying into the colonists, effectivly dieing out completly. Joesolo13 (talk) 15:52, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Evolution of Pan-Americanism[edit]

In this paragraph there is a link to the Union of Three Americas or something similar that redirects back to this page.76.30.222.251 (talk) 03:36, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Stub (Just one source?)[edit]

It seems like this article needs significant expansion, considering only one source is cited on this complicated issue...and that source is from before World War II. I think this article should be marked as a stub, in need of further citation, and possibly consisting of original research. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.78.110.126 (talk) 00:22, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Potential Changes[edit]

The existing article is in need of additional and better citations for its claims. There also needs to be a clearer distinction between pan-americanism and Latino nationalism, which is a recurring issue. There also needs to be reference to U.S. interventionism and how that has affected sentiments of pan-americanism.

Here are some sources that could be helpful:

Zusman, P. & Hevilla, M.C. (2014). Pan-Americanism and Arbitration in Border Conflicts: The Participation of the United States in the Definition of the Argentinean-Chilean Border in the Puna de Atacama (1899). Cuadernos de Geografía - Revista Colombiana de Geografía, 23(2), 95-106.

De la Reza, G.A. (2012). Pan-americanism Or Hispano-Americanism? The Educational Background Of Amphictyonic Congress Of Panama Of 1826. Revista de Historia de América, 147, 9-30.

Miller, S.W. (2014). Minding the Gap: Pan-Americanism's Highway, American Environmentalism, and Remembering the Failure to Close the Darién Gap. Environmental History, 19(2), 189-216.

Ramos, J.L. (2015). The Impact of the Mexican Revolution in Inter-American Politics: U.S.–Mexican Relations and U.S. Foreign Policy at the Fifth Pan-American Conference of 1923. Journal of Iberian and Latin American Research, 21(1), 87-101.

McCarthy-Jones, A. & Greig, A. (2011). Somos hijos de Sandino y Bolívar: Radical Pan-American Traditions in Historical and Cultural Context. Journal of Iberian and Latin American Research 17(2), 231-248.

De la Reza, G.A. (2013). The formative platform of the Congress of Panama (1810–1826): the Pan-American conjecture revisited. Revista Brasileira de Política Internacional, 56(1), 5-21.

Dmaldonado08 (talk) 02:03, 11 September 2015 (UTC)