Talk:Prime Minister of New Zealand

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Hugh Watt[edit]

Hugh Watt who was the Prime Minister for the interim period following Norman Kirk's death should be included.

Here in Australia, Earle Page, Frank Forde and John McEwen are counted as Prime Ministers even though they served for an interim period after the deaths of the previous Prime Ministers.--The Shadow Treasurer 05:23, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Hugh Watt was never actually Prime Minister in any official sense — he filled that role for a time, but was never appointed to the office. Like Australia, we've had a few Prime Ministers who were appointed Prime Minister even though they were only there for an interim period (Francis Bell, for example), but Watt wasn't one of those. -- Vardion 07:28, 23 September 2005 (UTC)


Something is badly wrong with the timeline, making most of the names unreadable (at least on my computer). Could someone fix this? --Helenalex 22:43, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

I had a fiddle with it. It's still not quite right, but should be improved. The problem seems to be something to do with alignment. If it still isn't acceptable, I suggest asking at the help desk for someone to come and fix it properly.-gadfium 00:46, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Split list[edit]

I would like to split the list section into a separate article, along the lines of the ones for the USA, the UK, Canada, and Australia. I think there are enough of them to justify a completely separate article. Any thoughts? --superioridad (discusión) 11:53, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Are you intending to add portraits and extra details as on those lists? That would be great. There'll be a few portraits missing; for those who are dead a fair use claim could be made on a photo from government archives.-gadfium 18:58, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
That is exactly what I am intending to do. If there are no objections, I'll get started just as soon as my internet connection stops acting up, probably later tonight. --superioridad (discusión) 03:14, 1 March 2008 (UTC)


(comment moved here from article -- Avenue (talk) 13:34, 16 April 2008 (UTC))

Unfortunately, the photo of the current Prime Minister of New Zealand [P.M.], Helen Clark, on this page, appears to perpetually depict the P.M. as appearing far more youthful than seems apparent. The photo appears to have been sourced from the P.M.'s seemingly infamous 'pledge Card'. It is time that this error was corrected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk)

It's the official portrait, and the pledge card also used it, but the portrait was released under the GFDL by the PM's office and not taken from the pledge card. I think almost all official portraits are intentionally flattering to their subjects. If you want to try replacing it with one of the several other free pictures of Helen Clark at commons:Helen_Clark, then do so, although other people may prefer to keep the official portrait in this article.-gadfium 20:34, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Maximum number of terms in office?[edit]

Anyone know if there is a maximum number of terms a PM can be in office?

Matt (talk) 23:32, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

There's none defined, hence there is no maximum. --Lholden (talk) 23:36, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

More timeline problems[edit]

Very minor changes to the timeline seem to prevent it from displaying properly, and often prevent it from displaying at all. Just updating the end date to the election date seems to trigger this bug, which is probably this one. This is going to make it a right pain to update to show the new PM in a few days time. Even when it displays, it's a bit ugly due to font problems (on both Windows and Linux) and because the graph is much taller than most people's screen height.

Any objection if I comment it out until such time as bug 16085 is fixed?-gadfium 00:23, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Done, I tried sandboxing it some weeks ago and found that the whole timeline template is not robust enough to be useful. It fails at date = 8 Nov 2008, although it accepts future dates, it fails to display links on left side of timeline and it failed when I tried adding a new PM. I then looked at the British version(s) which are laid out on a horizontal axis and tried adapting that - and found several more points of failure so I gave up on it. I suggest a graphical timeline for the time being. Fanx (talk) 12:07, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
I agree that the timelines in List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom (graphical) look much better than this one did. If someone mentions here when the bug is fixed, I'll try implementing something in that format for here.— Preceding unsigned comment added by gadfium (talkcontribs) 11 November 2008
Since it's been two years, I thought I'd take a look at the timeline again. It still is doing something a little strange with the fonts, but isn't unreadable as it was previously. If anyone hates it, feel free to comment it out again.
A possible improvement, which should be easy to implement, would be to split it into two or three columns so it would take less vertical space. I imagine this would be done by replacing the single timeline with two or three timelines, split roughly by century or half-century, and then using {{col-begin}} etc to display them side by side. This might cause problems on small screens, though.-gadfium 20:31, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Capital letters[edit]

@Newzild has removed a lot of capital letters from this article in these edits - from what I've seen I think most of them are proper nouns, but I don't really know - could someone more knowledgeable give their thoughts? Ollieinc (talk) 09:38, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I did remove a lot of caps. It is correct to use caps in a sentence like this: "Prime Minister John Key said..." but it is not correct in a sentence like this: "New Zealand has had 37 prime ministers." This article was strewn with false caps.

Semi-protected edit request on 19 October 2017[edit]

It is Jacinda Adern as of Friday 20th October. She is the Prime Minister of New Zealand. Pollypocket000 (talk) 11:11, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. SparklingPessimist Scream at me! 15:00, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
You need a source? Take your pick. — Preceding unsigned comment added by But this is a different name (talkcontribs) 20:24, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
She's on the front page of Wikipedia as the new NZ PM with sourcing galore. (talk) 02:41, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
Not sworn in yet though, so Bill English is still officially Prime Minister. --Canley (talk) 04:01, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

Winston Peters[edit]

Bringing the discussion here as I feel this could be quite contentious.

Since Winston is Acting Prime Minister and Jacinda is still Prime Minister even though she's on maternity leave, I've reverted the infobox. Feel free to revert back if there's a consensus otherwise. pcuser42 (talk) 22:10, 20 June 2018 (UTC)