Talk:Ram Dass

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Title?[edit]

He would probably say it doesn't matter, but different titles were added to his name. In 1981 when I heard him he was styled "Swami" but later, "Baba". The dates, origins and significance of these appelations would be interesting.--Hugh7 (talk) 08:24, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

also AKA[edit]

Raghvindra Das (Raghu Markus) of the Love Serve Remember Foundation ?


cf http://www.learnoutloud.com/Podcast-Directory/Self-Development/Emotional-Development/Ram-Dass-Here-And-Now-Podcast/46316


G. Robert Shiplett 12:06, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Ram Dass is a vegetarian.[edit]

While there is no problem mentioning that Ram Dass is a vegetarian, the current entry does not provide any context as to why that is significant, as many people are vegetarians and not particularly noteworthy. I would ask the author to elaborate in a manner suitable for an encyclopedia. For example, it is not even mentioned that most followers of the Hindu religion are vegetarian. Tachyon (talk) 22:04, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure Ram Dass would style himself a Hindu. He is a follower of a guru, meditating and formerly practicing some form of yoga, but primarily as a writer and lecturer his vocation was to generate interest in eastern philosophical perspectives. After many months of training and renunciation of material desires and possessions, his teacher sent him back into society to spread the word, so to speak. I have read several of his books, and seen one lecture, and he doesn't advocate worship, as such. He was raised in a non-practicing Jewish household. Hinduism is kind of a nebulous concept, anyway, comprising the worship of many gods in any one household, with many "ethnic Hindus" practicing more cultural customs than actual religious rites. Alpert went to India the first time with colleague Tim Leary in a group, all of whom used and advocated the use of halucinogenic substances, particularly LSD, to raise the consciousness. Alpert's guru-to-be demanded to see the "medicine", which they had not yet told him about, enough for the entire group, and immediately ingested it all himself. Leary and Alpert observed him for many hours, discerning no change in his manner or his cognition. This was the swami's way of demonstrating his control over his mind and body. When the group returned to the West, Alpert remained behind. He shared this story in his first post-guru book, 'Be Here Now'. ragity (talk) 05:48, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Film - Sunseed (1973)[edit]

I see from IMDb that there were other people in the film as well. ( Martin | talkcontribs 03:42, 28 February 2014 (UTC))

Possible WP:PEACOCK, WP:NPOV issues[edit]

In the lede it describes Be Here Now as "seminal" - a term of praise which sounds like WP:PEACOCK. I had previously rephrased the sentence to remove the word "seminal" and moved the references to the end of the sentence. User:Skyerise disagreed and reverted the sentence, saying in the comment that a properly cited acclaimation is not WP:PEACOCK. It seems to me that if sources X and Y praise the book as seminal, the article should say that the book was praised by X and Y as seminal, rather than claiming it as seminal. Consider the example paragraphs about Bob Dylan in WP:PEACOCK - the Peacock example uses words of praise such as "defining" and "brilliant", while the "Just the facts" version lists (with citations) what others have said about Bob Dylan. As it stands, the article is making a value statement about the book (that it is seminal) rather than adopting a neutral view of what has been said about the book. Autarch (talk) 19:12, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Exactly right. I would also call the book seminal, but that is only another opinion. It should be presented just as you say. ragity (talk) 05:53, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

[edit]

The whle page is uncritical and reads like hagiography - but the worst thing is the barely concealed advert at the end calling for financial support for Ram Dass. This may be a fine thing and great cause but surely this does not belong here. 2A01:CB18:8296:BB00:226:BBFF:FE18:843A (talk) 11:19, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Also exactly correct. If this hasn't been deleted, I shall delete it myself. ragity (talk) 05:56, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

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Hanuman[edit]

Why is "Hanuman Foundation" done as a link when it just redirects back to here?

It's link 'status' should be removed. 2600:8800:784:8F00:C23F:D5FF:FEC4:D51D (talk) 03:57, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

contradicted[edit]

The article, based on this[1] source, is saying Alpert had a bar mitzvah but was "disappointed by its essential hollowness". This[2] source says My Jewish trip was primarily political Judaism, I mean I was never Bar Mitzvahed, confirmed, and so on. Bus stop (talk) 17:59, 6 February 2021 (UTC)