Talk:United States Central Command
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Should we put in a section about CENTCOM staff? Like the J1, J2, etc.?
Hal06 13:13, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Blogs as Sources
Removed two references to a news blog from the penultimate section. Happy New Year! --Yitzhak1995 05:15, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- He was just confirmed by the Senate in March. The rank goes hand in hand with the position of commanding general U.S. Army, Europe. Therefore he will be promoted to the rank of General when he takes over the command in Germany. --GrummelJS (talk) 10:31, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Area of Responsibility
I think the area of responsibility no-longer includes the horn of Africa. The only African country included is Egypt. This is hinted at in the second paragraph but is not shown on the map. I think the map is from before the creation of AFRICOM. The map needs to be updated. Yaris678 (talk) 13:16, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- The WP:lede does not adequately summarize whats in the article and vice versa. I will copy edit and move a lot into the body.
- There is a problem with WP:verifiability, because of a dearth of references. Most sections are unreferenced.
- Much is out of date.
- Update: Same user is WP:editwarring a sourced sentence AND has been removing more than the sentence supported by the source.--Wuerzele (talk) 02:54, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
Command supervising Afghanistan operations
I've just had an editor delete "A series of major subordinate multi-service commands reported to Central Command responsible for Afghanistan. These included Combined Joint Task Force 180 (2002-2005), and Combined Forces Command Afghanistan (2003-?). CENTCOM also had significant influence over the International Security Assistance Force, through formally from 2003 NATO's Joint Force Command Brunssum supervised the headquarters."
This has been replaced with "Two major subordinate multi-service commands reporting to Central Command were the International Security Assistance Force, which was taken over by NATO and the Combined Forces Command Afghanistan Afghanistan War order of battle for U.S. force in Afghanistan. "
There's absolutely no doubt about either CJTF 180 or CFC-A; numerous references can be seen at the CJTF 180 page. Regarding ISAF, it was never formally commanded by U.S. Central Command. It was initially mandated by a UN Security Council resolution and run by a number of countries, before it was taken over by NATO (and Joint Force Command Brunssum). This is correctly shown at the ISAF infobox. Auerswald and Saideman 2014 are eloquent about the command-and-control problems that NATO suffered. This is course is the formal, legal, position. In actual fact U.S. four-star generals held command after British General David Richards, and Secretaries of Defense Rumsfeld and Gates selected commanders (Petraeus and McChrystal among them). This can be seen at Auerswald, David P. & Stephen M. Saideman, eds. NATO in Afghanistan: Fighting Together, Fighting Alone (Princeton U.P. 2014), 93-103. This book breaks down the history of the U.S. effort in Afghanistan down by deployed commander.
Effectively the U.S. government directed the effort, but not in a formal legal sense.
- thank you for clarifying, Buckshot06, great. I agree with what you wrote, if sourced by the book you mention. (I dont have it and have to trust you.) Can you tell me what you mean by "commands"? Do you know any more than these 2 "commands", because you write "a series"? The second sentence I propose "CENTCOM also had considerable (instead of significant) influence over the International Security Assistance Force, though (instead of through) formally from 2003 onward NATO's Joint Force Command Brunssum supervised the headquarters."
- Let me know.--Wuerzele (talk) 19:24, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Buckshot06, thank you for your many constructive edits today. Quick question re ISAFNATO - why do you think it shouldnt be mentioned under ext links? I had added ended January 2015, Resolute Support NATO official website.--Wuerzele (talk) 19:42, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Orphaned references in United States Central Command
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of United States Central Command's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "africom-stands-up":
- From Operation Enduring Freedom – Horn of Africa: "Africans Fear Hidden U.S. Agenda in New Approach to Africom". Fox News. Associated Press. 30 September 2008. Retrieved 30 September 2008.
- From Trans-Saharan Counterterrorism Initiative: "Africans Fear Hidden U.S. Agenda in New Approach to Africom". Associated Press. 2008-09-30. Retrieved 2008-09-30.
- From Combined Joint Task Force – Horn of Africa: "Africans Fear Hidden U.S. Agenda in New Approach to Africom". Associated Press. 2008-09-30. Retrieved 2008-09-30.
- From Camp Lemonnier: "Africans Fear Hidden U.S. Agenda in New Approach to Africom". Associated Press. 30 September 2008. Retrieved 30 September 2008.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 23:17, 2 April 2015 (UTC)