User talk:Surtsicna

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Hello, Surtsicna, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages you might find helpful:

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Izador Papo Article[edit]

I'm a family member of him. He was just married to Asya

You have been reported for revert violation[edit]

Nomination for merging of Template:Infobox peerage title[edit]

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January 2021[edit]

Ambox warning pn.svg You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Pope Linus; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Elizium23 (talk) 14:08, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Choosing to warn me rather than the user speedily copy-pasting the doodles across dozens of articles is rather disingenuous, especially since you are well aware of the consensus reached at WP:Wikiproject Catholicism in April 2020. Surtsicna (talk) 14:18, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
Surtsicna, it takes two to edit-war; the other editor has received plenty of warning already. Elizium23 (talk) 14:20, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Information icon Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Boris Johnson. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.

Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Please do not edit war  Spy-cicle💥  Talk? 15:48, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Catherine of Valois[edit]

Is a reliable source?--Kansas Bear (talk) 20:27, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

It appears to be self-published. I would say it is not a reliable source. Surtsicna (talk) 20:36, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Scott Morrison[edit]

Read his own website. It's in capitals. You can use "prime minister" in lowercase in some circumstances, but the full title is "Prime Minister of Australia". You are wrong. Don't just try to change things, discuss it at the talk page. Deus et lex (talk) 12:37, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Deus et lex, I have left a message to you on your talk page. MOS:JOBTITLES is clear on this. Surtsicna (talk) 12:38, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
It's the title - read the website I sent you. If you refer to the title of the position, you use capital letters. "Scott Morrison is a prime minister", but "Prime Minister of Australia". Your message doesn't say anything useful. Please stop editing these pages. Deus et lex (talk) 12:41, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
Yes, it's a title and it should be in lower case. Wikipedia does not capitalize titles just because a holder does so. Wikipedia has its own guideline, MOS:JOBTITLES. A link to it is useful and I suggest that you read it. Surtsicna (talk) 12:51, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
No, the title of the position is in uppercase. It's different. It's important to follow what the position actually uses, not some arbitrary style you want to use. Deus et lex (talk) 13:01, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
It's not "some arbitrary style" that I want to use, it is the style guide of this project. Surtsicna (talk) 13:03, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
You want to use it in your own arbitrary way that's inconsistent with everyday usage. No one ever writes to, or refers to, the PM as "prime minister of Australia", it's just wrong. If you read the style guide, it distinguishes between the title and the office anyway. "Prime Minister of Australia" is the title and can be appropriately capitalised. "Scott Morrison is a prime minister" refers to an office and can stay in lower case. They're different usages. Deus et lex (talk) 13:17, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Strange that @Eyer: doesn't get more involved in these types of discussions. He's usually the boldest, when it comes to de-capitalising. GoodDay (talk) 16:21, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi. I work full-time, and I'm in school full-time, so I usually just let these conversations happen. That said, MOS:JOBTITLES is clear... If the title is modified (including by "the"), then it's lowercase. No questions about it. —Eyer (he/him) If you reply, add {{reply to|Eyer}} to your message. 17:37, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Prime Ministers[edit]

A helpful guide from the official UK government website stating they do, in fact, keep count. [1] DaleYorks (talk) 16:42, 2 February 2021 (UTC)


What is the difference between "succession rights", "constitutional role", and "public role"? CuteDolphin712 (talk) 11:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

The articles hereditary monarchy, public person, constitutional monarchy, and primogeniture might be helpful. Surtsicna (talk) 12:22, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Suc-box content, that's gotta go.[edit]

I've begun an RFC at Village Pump (proposals). Any additional examples of the suc-box content-in-question, would be appreciated. GoodDay (talk) 21:59, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

As far as I know, GoodDay, RFC questions should be neutral, so you may want to rewrite that. I would go with a broad question such as: "Should records such as 'Oldest British prime minister' or 'Longest-lived US president' be included in succession boxes?" Surtsicna (talk) 22:05, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Good point. Adjustments made. GoodDay (talk) 22:09, 4 February 2021 (UTC)